One of the most confusing aspects about Vedic beliefs is the relation between fate and karma. The general idea is that karma is the reaction of the actions performed by individuals. It is also believed that what actions / decisions we take are the result of our past karma.
This puts people into a quandary: If all that we do is guided by what we have done in the past, then it means that we have no control over what we are doing, and hence no way to change our destiny.
Some guys had also asked me such questions during various spiritual discussions. A detailed and very good explanation of how this works is outlined in this article on the Krishna.com website.
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Sunday, December 12, 2010
Ecstatic kirtan and a divine Sunday feast
Over the last decade, I have been following a practice of celebrating special family occasions with dinner / lunch from the Govinda's restaurant at ISKCON, Juhu in Mumbai. This Sunday, too, saw me attend an ecstatic kirtan (congregational chanting) at the temple there followed by a take away of the Sunday spread at Govinda's. Over the years, the rates of the buffet have increased multi-fold. The weekend rates are a bit higher than the weekday rates. The take away rates are lesser than the dine in rates primarily because only a limited quantity is packed for the take away as compared to the unlimited buffet, and also because a fewer variety of dishes from the buffet are packed in. For example, if the buffet has 4 rice dishes, only 1 would be packed for the take away. The take away weekend price is now Rs. 300.
Though there are people who have opinions otherwise, I, nevertheless, found the food (prasadam) to be absolutely divine.
Though there are people who have opinions otherwise, I, nevertheless, found the food (prasadam) to be absolutely divine.
Saturday, October 02, 2010
Amazon.com amazes
I had this question first about 3 years ago, and its still unanswered. Does Amazon.com deliver to India? They sure have software development facilities here in Hyderabad (and maybe 'Luru), and they sure conduct campus recruitment from Indian universities, but it beats the hell out of me to know they do not have a local Indian warehousing from where the items could be shipped.
The story I had heard then is still the same now: They do ship to India, but they charge international shipping rates, and the credit card is charged in USD.
The interest in buying Yamuna Devi Dasi's classic cooking book "Lord Krishna's Cuisine: The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" was rekindled when Kurma Dasaji started running a series of recipes from Yamuna Deviji. And, this book shows on Amazon. But can we order locally? We don't know.
A good idea would be to check some Indian e-stores such as indiatimes.com or the more popular one for books flipkart.com. That's what I'm going to do next.
The story I had heard then is still the same now: They do ship to India, but they charge international shipping rates, and the credit card is charged in USD.
The interest in buying Yamuna Devi Dasi's classic cooking book "Lord Krishna's Cuisine: The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" was rekindled when Kurma Dasaji started running a series of recipes from Yamuna Deviji. And, this book shows on Amazon. But can we order locally? We don't know.
A good idea would be to check some Indian e-stores such as indiatimes.com or the more popular one for books flipkart.com. That's what I'm going to do next.
Monday, April 27, 2009
"Bhavayami Gopala Balam"
Once in a blue moon there comes a musical piece that makes me listen to it over and over. And, so, after a very long time, I came across this gem on a double CD set by MS ("Live in Russia"). The piece, titled "Bhavayami Gopala Balam", is actually a composition by Annamacharya (as found out from the Internet).
I have never heard so slow a track, but the meaning of the lyrics, and the rendition by MS is enough for me to listen to the song again and again. Too bad, the iPod Shuffle does not have a "repeat track" feature.
I have never heard so slow a track, but the meaning of the lyrics, and the rendition by MS is enough for me to listen to the song again and again. Too bad, the iPod Shuffle does not have a "repeat track" feature.
Sunday, May 04, 2008
The "dairy farms" of Mumbai
One problem in working in Mumbai (and probably true for the rest of India as well) is the addiction to drinking tea (cutting) at odd hours during the working period. So, after working for about 13 years, I found that I had acquired this (rather stupid) habit at having tea at the following approximate times:
9 a.m., 11 a.m., 2 p.m., 4 p.m., 7 p.m. (and sometimes even after dinner).
This seems to be a common practice among Mumbaikars. A proof of this lies in the number of roadside stalls that sell tea. You might not find shops selling milk, but I can almost guarantee that there would be a stall that sells tea within a few hundred metres on any public road where ever in Mumbai. One reason for this might be the cost: a cutting (less than 100 ml) of tea costs (even today) less than Rs. 3 at most stalls.
This post is, of course, not related to the "tea stalls"...but that is the background. An increase in my chanting kind of made me averse to drinking this tea. I cannot claim to have kicked the habit, but I certainly seemed to have developed some aversion towards this habit. Now, to overcome this silly habit and to get some proteins, I decided to have milk instead. The only problem is that there are not those many shops in Mumbai that sell milk by the glass.
There are shops that are typically named "dairy farms" that do sell hot milk. Why these are called "farms" I have no idea...since it is just a shop. A glass of hot milk costs Rs. 10; a half-glass costs Rs. 5. Either ways, it is served topped with cream.
The operation of the shop is simple: There is a large kadahi that is constantly simmering over a small flame of fire. The kadahi is filled with many litres of milk. After much simmering, the milk turns a bit brown, and has a layer of cream over it. Whenever a customer asks for a glass of milk, the appropriate quantity of milk is put into a glass (along with some sugar). Finally, the glass is topped with a layer of cream from the kadahi. In some "farms", some condiments such as crushed cardamom is added to give it a special flavor.
9 a.m., 11 a.m., 2 p.m., 4 p.m., 7 p.m. (and sometimes even after dinner).
This seems to be a common practice among Mumbaikars. A proof of this lies in the number of roadside stalls that sell tea. You might not find shops selling milk, but I can almost guarantee that there would be a stall that sells tea within a few hundred metres on any public road where ever in Mumbai. One reason for this might be the cost: a cutting (less than 100 ml) of tea costs (even today) less than Rs. 3 at most stalls.
This post is, of course, not related to the "tea stalls"...but that is the background. An increase in my chanting kind of made me averse to drinking this tea. I cannot claim to have kicked the habit, but I certainly seemed to have developed some aversion towards this habit. Now, to overcome this silly habit and to get some proteins, I decided to have milk instead. The only problem is that there are not those many shops in Mumbai that sell milk by the glass.
There are shops that are typically named "dairy farms" that do sell hot milk. Why these are called "farms" I have no idea...since it is just a shop. A glass of hot milk costs Rs. 10; a half-glass costs Rs. 5. Either ways, it is served topped with cream.
The operation of the shop is simple: There is a large kadahi that is constantly simmering over a small flame of fire. The kadahi is filled with many litres of milk. After much simmering, the milk turns a bit brown, and has a layer of cream over it. Whenever a customer asks for a glass of milk, the appropriate quantity of milk is put into a glass (along with some sugar). Finally, the glass is topped with a layer of cream from the kadahi. In some "farms", some condiments such as crushed cardamom is added to give it a special flavor.
Chanting is addictive
"Chant and be happy" is what they tell you at every ISKCON temple. Printed on leaflets and books, the message is clear (and simple). Chant the 16-word Mahamantra, and improve your life. Most ISKCON temples (at least the one in Juhu) provide visiting people (who are not necessarily Krishna conscious devotees) with a 108-bead japa mala (chanting beads) and a small leaflet with the Mahamantra. I've never tried chanting on those beads offered at the temple.
The recommended daily practice for aspiring as well as initiated devotees is 16 rounds of chanting this Mahamantra. That is, 16 x 108 = 1728 times. In addition, on Ekadashi day, it is recommended to perform additional rounds (preferably 25 x 108 times).
Now, this was not the only mantra that I knew...I had, of course, recited many other mantras daily for many years. So, it was not clear what this chanting would achieve. Still, out of curiosity, in 2002, I started chanting this Mahamantra almost every working day 11 times (not 11 rounds - only 11 times) in a day. This was during the morning commute to my workplace.
As if by instruction (or magic), a few years later, I increased that to some more times. However, I did not use chanting beads or any other device...so it was difficult to keep track. I used to use my fingers, but then I would lose count soon.
Around 2006, I started visiting Srila Prabhupada's quarters in the Juhu temple. This was on suggestion from a devotee co-worker. During one such visit, one devotee who was also praying at the quarters asked me about how many times I chant daily. He asked me to buy chanting beads from the store at the temple. Though I did not pay attention to his instructions on that day, I did find myself buying the beads after a few days. I used the beads to chant a few times...but the main problem was in using the beads while commuting.
A few days later I bought a "hand-tally counter" (a small metallic device) that can be used for counting the number of times chanted. I could use this counter while commuting...even while standing inside the crowded buses, there was no problem in continuing the chanting.
I started with a modest goal of 4 rounds daily. Soon, I found that I could chant 10 rounds frequently; very often, I could do the recommended 16 rounds too. There was no problem.
Srila Prabhupada has said that "If you take one step towards Krishna, then Krishna will take ten steps towards you". This seems to be the theory at work behind my increase in the chanting. It cannot be mere coincidence that the 2-year break from work was meant exactly to make more time for chanting.
The main advantage of this Mahamantra is that it can be chanted anywhere, anytime (although it is more beneficial to chant in the early morning hours). So, all in all, chanting the Mahamantra does seem to be addictive. There are some other experiences as well...I may outline in a later post. Though I cannot claim be a devotee yet, it seems the goal is closer than it was before.
The recommended daily practice for aspiring as well as initiated devotees is 16 rounds of chanting this Mahamantra. That is, 16 x 108 = 1728 times. In addition, on Ekadashi day, it is recommended to perform additional rounds (preferably 25 x 108 times).
Now, this was not the only mantra that I knew...I had, of course, recited many other mantras daily for many years. So, it was not clear what this chanting would achieve. Still, out of curiosity, in 2002, I started chanting this Mahamantra almost every working day 11 times (not 11 rounds - only 11 times) in a day. This was during the morning commute to my workplace.
As if by instruction (or magic), a few years later, I increased that to some more times. However, I did not use chanting beads or any other device...so it was difficult to keep track. I used to use my fingers, but then I would lose count soon.
Around 2006, I started visiting Srila Prabhupada's quarters in the Juhu temple. This was on suggestion from a devotee co-worker. During one such visit, one devotee who was also praying at the quarters asked me about how many times I chant daily. He asked me to buy chanting beads from the store at the temple. Though I did not pay attention to his instructions on that day, I did find myself buying the beads after a few days. I used the beads to chant a few times...but the main problem was in using the beads while commuting.
A few days later I bought a "hand-tally counter" (a small metallic device) that can be used for counting the number of times chanted. I could use this counter while commuting...even while standing inside the crowded buses, there was no problem in continuing the chanting.
I started with a modest goal of 4 rounds daily. Soon, I found that I could chant 10 rounds frequently; very often, I could do the recommended 16 rounds too. There was no problem.
Srila Prabhupada has said that "If you take one step towards Krishna, then Krishna will take ten steps towards you". This seems to be the theory at work behind my increase in the chanting. It cannot be mere coincidence that the 2-year break from work was meant exactly to make more time for chanting.
The main advantage of this Mahamantra is that it can be chanted anywhere, anytime (although it is more beneficial to chant in the early morning hours). So, all in all, chanting the Mahamantra does seem to be addictive. There are some other experiences as well...I may outline in a later post. Though I cannot claim be a devotee yet, it seems the goal is closer than it was before.
Sunday, March 23, 2008
The first offering rolls out...
From the recipes of Kurma Dasa into my kitchen, I've just finished cooking, offering (to the Supreme Lord), and eating my first preparation of a Kurma Dasa recipe. It was called "North Indian curried cauliflower and potato" ("Aloo Gobi").
Needless to say, it was delicious. The sugar and lemon juice really made it more delicious. Thanks to Kurma.
Needless to say, it was delicious. The sugar and lemon juice really made it more delicious. Thanks to Kurma.
Monday, March 17, 2008
Sabudana Wada, and an attempt to return to cooking
This is two posts in one, but both somewhat related...
On Ekadashi, some people abstain from taking food (a total fast); while some others abstain from eating grains and pulses. Recently, I've started the second type of abstinence. Although I try not to consume grains / pulses, I can hardly get along without eating something. So, I consume some fruits and something made out of sabudana (sago). Some people do believe that sabudana is not a good thing to consume...but we shall let that be for the present.
Sabudana wada and sabudana khichadi are two preparations that are often prepared in some Maharashtrian homes during fasting. Outside, in restaurants, sabudana wada is hardly prepared well. I've yet to come across some restaurant that makes nice sabudana wadas (even the usual suspects (Panshikar, etc.) fail to impress here). But, there is one place I know which makes out-of-the-world sabudana wadas. The Hare Krishna temple at Juhu has a stall that sells samosas, and batata wadas. This stall also sells sabudana wadas (only on Ekadashi days). Those sabudana wadas are the tastiest I've ever had in my entire life. Sometimes, the wadas are all sold out before I reach the stall...in which case, I've to get along with the wadas dished out in regular Udipi restaurants.
To understand the complexity of getting the sabudana wadas / Khicadi right, take a look at this article (sabudana pilaf) by Kurma Dasa.
Recently, inspired in part by Govinda's tasty dishes (one wonders how they could make it taste so well without using onions and garlic), and part by Kurma Dasa, I am attempting to return to cooking. The last time I cooked was when I was away from home. That time, cooking meant frying onions in oil, adding garam masala, and then adding whatever was to be cooked. This time, however, I'm going to do things differently. Kurma Dasa's excellent collection of recipes do not include onion and garlic (and obviously no meat / eggs). I hope to get close to the taste offered by Govinda's. Of course, all cooking is to be done with devotion to the Supreme Lord, and offered to the Lord first before eating, since, in the Bhagavad Gita (Bg. 3.13), the Supreme Lord says:
On Ekadashi, some people abstain from taking food (a total fast); while some others abstain from eating grains and pulses. Recently, I've started the second type of abstinence. Although I try not to consume grains / pulses, I can hardly get along without eating something. So, I consume some fruits and something made out of sabudana (sago). Some people do believe that sabudana is not a good thing to consume...but we shall let that be for the present.
Sabudana wada and sabudana khichadi are two preparations that are often prepared in some Maharashtrian homes during fasting. Outside, in restaurants, sabudana wada is hardly prepared well. I've yet to come across some restaurant that makes nice sabudana wadas (even the usual suspects (Panshikar, etc.) fail to impress here). But, there is one place I know which makes out-of-the-world sabudana wadas. The Hare Krishna temple at Juhu has a stall that sells samosas, and batata wadas. This stall also sells sabudana wadas (only on Ekadashi days). Those sabudana wadas are the tastiest I've ever had in my entire life. Sometimes, the wadas are all sold out before I reach the stall...in which case, I've to get along with the wadas dished out in regular Udipi restaurants.
To understand the complexity of getting the sabudana wadas / Khicadi right, take a look at this article (sabudana pilaf) by Kurma Dasa.
Recently, inspired in part by Govinda's tasty dishes (one wonders how they could make it taste so well without using onions and garlic), and part by Kurma Dasa, I am attempting to return to cooking. The last time I cooked was when I was away from home. That time, cooking meant frying onions in oil, adding garam masala, and then adding whatever was to be cooked. This time, however, I'm going to do things differently. Kurma Dasa's excellent collection of recipes do not include onion and garlic (and obviously no meat / eggs). I hope to get close to the taste offered by Govinda's. Of course, all cooking is to be done with devotion to the Supreme Lord, and offered to the Lord first before eating, since, in the Bhagavad Gita (Bg. 3.13), the Supreme Lord says:
And, in Bg. 9.27, the Supreme Lord says:The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because they eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin.
O son of Kunti, all that you do, all that you eat, all that you offer and give away, as well as all austerities that you may perform, should be done as an offering unto Me.
Saturday, July 28, 2007
A major milestone reached
By the grace of the Supreme Lord, I can now say that I've finished reading the (English) translation of the "Bhagavad Gita - As It Is". For quite some time (years), I was stuck with having read only 3 chapters. Recently I figured out what the problem was and why I wasn't making any progress. I worked around that obstacle (you'll never guess it was so trivial, but the solution involved LaTeX).
The completion of reading the Gita is definitely the most major milestone in my life. That does not say anything about my having understood 100% of it. Also, the workaround involved skipping reading the purports (by HDG ACB SP) in the translation. Hopefully, reading the purports will increase my understanding. Until then, I can claim to have read (the translation of) all the verses.
I have never watched the Mahabharat serial that was telecast on television some years ago. I believe it also covered the conversation in the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know if it covers whatever is there in the Bhagavad Gita. I was surprised to see many questions directly answered in the Bhagavad Gita.
There is one thing that I would like to quote for now:
From BG Chapter 13, Verse 26:
Some other quotes will follow in posts to this blog later.
The next logical step is to read the purports and then the Srimad Bhagavatam.
The completion of reading the Gita is definitely the most major milestone in my life. That does not say anything about my having understood 100% of it. Also, the workaround involved skipping reading the purports (by HDG ACB SP) in the translation. Hopefully, reading the purports will increase my understanding. Until then, I can claim to have read (the translation of) all the verses.
I have never watched the Mahabharat serial that was telecast on television some years ago. I believe it also covered the conversation in the Bhagavad Gita. I do not know if it covers whatever is there in the Bhagavad Gita. I was surprised to see many questions directly answered in the Bhagavad Gita.
There is one thing that I would like to quote for now:
From BG Chapter 13, Verse 26:
Again there are those who, although not conversant in spiritual knowledge, begin to worship the Supreme Person upon hearing about Him from others. Because of their tendency to hear from authorities, they also transcend the path of birth and death.In my case, the "others" mentioned in the verse was a co-worker of mine. He is, of course, an ISKCON devotee. I would like to thank him.
Some other quotes will follow in posts to this blog later.
The next logical step is to read the purports and then the Srimad Bhagavatam.
Thursday, July 05, 2007
Amazing lectures of HDG ACB Srila Prabhupada
Recently I had the chance to hear some lecture recordings of HDG ACB Srila Prabhupada (courtesy Internet streaming and a good mechanism to find these built into Amarok, the KDE media player). Although I have read several books by Srila, I found the lectures to provide much more information. The voice also provides the emotional content - something that is not captured in the books. Srila's rasping voice, a tone that almost seems to reprimand the audience, and the authority with which Srila speaks, made me wanting to listen to more of the lecture recordings.
Most of these are recorded in the 1970s. CDs featuring these lectures are sold in the ISKCON stores. There is also a MP3 library (24 CD set) available containing all these lecture recordings (but I think its a bit too expensive).
Most of these are recorded in the 1970s. CDs featuring these lectures are sold in the ISKCON stores. There is also a MP3 library (24 CD set) available containing all these lecture recordings (but I think its a bit too expensive).
Monday, January 16, 2006
Pandharpur calling
Pandharpur beckons.
I feel I must visit it once, if only to see what inspired the saints to write so many beautiful songs (abhangs) about it. Something magical...something inspirational...definitely something too important to miss out.
When the time comes, I will go there. But, right now, I'm just trying to find out enough to plan a trip. I am being told that it is not the best of places to stay in (?). Its just a small village and (maybe) not yet commercialized. But, then it has always been said that Lord Vitthala was the "poor man's God". I am being told that this is one of the few places where ALL people could actually touch the Lord's feet. If poverty is judged by spiritual wealth, then definitely all of our types are below the poverty line.
Onto Solapur, by God's grace, we shall soon see what is special about this.
I feel I must visit it once, if only to see what inspired the saints to write so many beautiful songs (abhangs) about it. Something magical...something inspirational...definitely something too important to miss out.
When the time comes, I will go there. But, right now, I'm just trying to find out enough to plan a trip. I am being told that it is not the best of places to stay in (?). Its just a small village and (maybe) not yet commercialized. But, then it has always been said that Lord Vitthala was the "poor man's God". I am being told that this is one of the few places where ALL people could actually touch the Lord's feet. If poverty is judged by spiritual wealth, then definitely all of our types are below the poverty line.
Onto Solapur, by God's grace, we shall soon see what is special about this.
Friday, January 13, 2006
Confusion over Lord Ganesha's Shloka
I have not studied this matter in depth but these are some lingering thoughts in my mind that I should find out more about. Given that Lord Ganesha is Mumbai's "favorite" God and that half of Bollywood and even "telewood" go to the Siddhivinayak temple, I thought it might be time to pose this question.
I've heard at least 2 versions of the famous Lord Ganesha's shloka. Mind you, this is the same "mantra" that is recited at the beginning of every auspicious ceremony. The 2 versions differ by only a single word, but the change seems significant to me.
Here are the 2 versions, side by side:
These are 2 separate versions that I've heard or read. The difference is a single word. In one version, it is "Sarva", while in the other it is "Shubh". "Sarva" means all, while "Shubh" means auspicious.
Thus, the first mantra is probably meant for all tasks (auspicious or otherwise), whereas the second one seems to seek blessings before beginning an auspicous task.
I wonder which one is the original one and whether both mean the same. If you have to start a not-so-legal task, you now know which one to use.
I've heard at least 2 versions of the famous Lord Ganesha's shloka. Mind you, this is the same "mantra" that is recited at the beginning of every auspicious ceremony. The 2 versions differ by only a single word, but the change seems significant to me.
Here are the 2 versions, side by side:
| Vakratunda mahakaya Koti soorya samaprabha Nirvighnam kurume deva Sarva karyeshu sarvada | Vakratunda mahakaya Koti soorya samaprabha Nirvighnam kurume deva Shubh karyeshu sarvada |
Thus, the first mantra is probably meant for all tasks (auspicious or otherwise), whereas the second one seems to seek blessings before beginning an auspicous task.
I wonder which one is the original one and whether both mean the same. If you have to start a not-so-legal task, you now know which one to use.
Sunday, December 25, 2005
"Purana Nikantu" - a Malayalam treatise on the Puranas
Very recently, I have managed to procure "Purana Nikantu" from God's own country, Kerala. This is supposed to be a wonderful treatise in Malayalam about the Puranas. The translation of the title ("Purana Nikantu") is "Encyclopedia of the Puranas".
Although I do not know Malayalam, I am looking out for translators to English (my father may be one, if he agrees - which is rare). I am made to understand that there is no English translation available (yet!).
I hope to update my knowledge with this book in the coming years...looking at its size, it does seem it will take a considerable time (years, not months).
Although I do not know Malayalam, I am looking out for translators to English (my father may be one, if he agrees - which is rare). I am made to understand that there is no English translation available (yet!).
I hope to update my knowledge with this book in the coming years...looking at its size, it does seem it will take a considerable time (years, not months).
Friday, December 23, 2005
The jigsaw puzzle metaphor
When we solve a complex jigsaw puzzle, most people try to fix some parts on the edge and then assuming that the piece is in its correct place, proceed to fix others relative to it. It may happen that the assumption was wrong and then one needs to backtrack and fix the error and proceed again. After all the pieces have fit in correctly, one can feel happy that the puzzle has been solved.
Actually, there are 2 ways to end the puzzle: The first way is one in which we have/know what the final solved puzzle should look like. In that case, we can simply compare the pieces and fit them in the appropriate places. Also, when all the pieces are fit in, one can cross check to see if the finished puzzle looks like what we wanted it to be. That would signal the solution of the puzzle.
There is a second way: In this, we do not know what the final finished puzzle should look like. So, we can only find out if we have solved the puzzle by cross-checking if all the pieces have fit in. Even in this, one has to assume that a certain piece belongs to a particular place. If that assumption turns out to be wrong because some other pieces do not fit in, then one has to backtrack and rectify the error.
The study of Vedic/Hindu religion is a bit like the jigsaw puzzle: one does not what is the final picture. Also, one has to assume certain parts are correct. If one makes these assumptions, then one can clearly see all the pieces fall in place one after the other. When the study is done, one could see the overall picture and see if there was any misfit pieces or not.
Just a metaphor...the way I see it.
Actually, there are 2 ways to end the puzzle: The first way is one in which we have/know what the final solved puzzle should look like. In that case, we can simply compare the pieces and fit them in the appropriate places. Also, when all the pieces are fit in, one can cross check to see if the finished puzzle looks like what we wanted it to be. That would signal the solution of the puzzle.
There is a second way: In this, we do not know what the final finished puzzle should look like. So, we can only find out if we have solved the puzzle by cross-checking if all the pieces have fit in. Even in this, one has to assume that a certain piece belongs to a particular place. If that assumption turns out to be wrong because some other pieces do not fit in, then one has to backtrack and rectify the error.
The study of Vedic/Hindu religion is a bit like the jigsaw puzzle: one does not what is the final picture. Also, one has to assume certain parts are correct. If one makes these assumptions, then one can clearly see all the pieces fall in place one after the other. When the study is done, one could see the overall picture and see if there was any misfit pieces or not.
Just a metaphor...the way I see it.
Thursday, December 22, 2005
ISKCON, the myth and the reality
My recent post (and the comments in that post) was against the "myths" created by people against those "good intentioned" godmen. As stated in the comments, I wish to put on record how my views about ISKCON changed, once I started to investigate the myths surrounding it. Here are the details...as briefly as I can state them.
We start with the myths first. BTW, this was also my original perception about ISKCON. The source of the myth probably lies in the famous old movie "Hare Rama Hare Krishna" where it was portrayed that foreigners came to India and took to drug abuse in the guise of spiritual learning. My elders had warned me about such things and somehow I came to suspect that these activities might be going on in the ISKCON temple at Juhu. During this period, I'd visited the temple a few times and though I did not see any such activity going on, I assumed there might be some "rooms" or "inner chambers" where this might be taking place.
Some time later, I was told that these people actually encourage people to become a "devotee" and once you get "trapped into this", one cannot "come out of it". Sounds familiar. This is the famous FUD thing (as mentioned in the original post about godmen).
A few years ago I was getting fed up of the routine life and felt there was something lacking - perhaps I had missed something important earlier. I also thought it might be worthwhile to investigate the myth by personally trying to probe a bit deeper.
Since ISKCON has a lot of books, I started reading some books. Most books are available in English - so a first-level understanding is not a problem. The problem was finding time to read the books and to find the correct books to read.
In about 2001, a co-worker (who was a "devotee" - in ISKCON terminology, a "devotee" has to follow 4 basic rules...will skip them here) brought a few copies of the "The Bhagvad Gita - As It Is" for selling. I bought one. That was the beginning. As if by pre-decided fate, a few months later, I found myself talking to this co-worker while commuting back from the workplace to home. The half-an-hour or so spent with him left me completely astonished. There were too many things to learn (maybe "unlearn" and "re-learn"). He made some valid points and I thought that I must try to understand (not read) the subject a bit more deeply.
Thus started the long journey to read a lot of books, to understand the philosophy, to understand what they preach - the destruction of the myth. There was no truth to the myth. Ignorance is equivalent to darkness. From the darkness to the light - that is what knowledge can do. The myth was total darkness.
I am still not a "devotee". There are some basic things required of a "devotee". But, there is nothing wrong or misleading in their philosophy either. These days I try to tell about this philosophy to other interested people - these are the people on the "fence". So what if I do not follow the teachings myself? I do not feel guilty about it. Some day I will get there.
Moral of the story: Those people who comment without knowing the details should shut up, understand first and then point out mistakes or opinions, if any. Commenting without understanding or experiencing the problem is a "dangerous thing" for the planet. Many people comment about Hinduism/Vedic religion. These people should understand (at least) the Bhagvad Gita first and then say what they want to say.
We start with the myths first. BTW, this was also my original perception about ISKCON. The source of the myth probably lies in the famous old movie "Hare Rama Hare Krishna" where it was portrayed that foreigners came to India and took to drug abuse in the guise of spiritual learning. My elders had warned me about such things and somehow I came to suspect that these activities might be going on in the ISKCON temple at Juhu. During this period, I'd visited the temple a few times and though I did not see any such activity going on, I assumed there might be some "rooms" or "inner chambers" where this might be taking place.
Some time later, I was told that these people actually encourage people to become a "devotee" and once you get "trapped into this", one cannot "come out of it". Sounds familiar. This is the famous FUD thing (as mentioned in the original post about godmen).
A few years ago I was getting fed up of the routine life and felt there was something lacking - perhaps I had missed something important earlier. I also thought it might be worthwhile to investigate the myth by personally trying to probe a bit deeper.
Since ISKCON has a lot of books, I started reading some books. Most books are available in English - so a first-level understanding is not a problem. The problem was finding time to read the books and to find the correct books to read.
In about 2001, a co-worker (who was a "devotee" - in ISKCON terminology, a "devotee" has to follow 4 basic rules...will skip them here) brought a few copies of the "The Bhagvad Gita - As It Is" for selling. I bought one. That was the beginning. As if by pre-decided fate, a few months later, I found myself talking to this co-worker while commuting back from the workplace to home. The half-an-hour or so spent with him left me completely astonished. There were too many things to learn (maybe "unlearn" and "re-learn"). He made some valid points and I thought that I must try to understand (not read) the subject a bit more deeply.
Thus started the long journey to read a lot of books, to understand the philosophy, to understand what they preach - the destruction of the myth. There was no truth to the myth. Ignorance is equivalent to darkness. From the darkness to the light - that is what knowledge can do. The myth was total darkness.
I am still not a "devotee". There are some basic things required of a "devotee". But, there is nothing wrong or misleading in their philosophy either. These days I try to tell about this philosophy to other interested people - these are the people on the "fence". So what if I do not follow the teachings myself? I do not feel guilty about it. Some day I will get there.
Moral of the story: Those people who comment without knowing the details should shut up, understand first and then point out mistakes or opinions, if any. Commenting without understanding or experiencing the problem is a "dangerous thing" for the planet. Many people comment about Hinduism/Vedic religion. These people should understand (at least) the Bhagvad Gita first and then say what they want to say.
Sunday, December 18, 2005
Godmen and the FUD against them
Today's (18th Dec 2005) Mumbai Mirror has an article that throws the spotlight back on the "godmen". More specifically, it states how a "devotee" of a locally famous "godman" (Anirudhha Bapu) has filed a defamation case against Bollywood actor (and self-styled "crusader") Nana Patekar.
That's not the first time Nana has gone against "such" people. Neither is it the first time he has got into such trouble. There was the recent case where he had threatened a car driver on the road for driving "rashly". It was alleged that he had even pulled out a revolver (a licensed one). On the other hand, the recent case where another godman Narendra Maharaj was not allowed to take his "holy staff" aboard a plane may have prompted Nana to speak against them again.
Now, the very first point of argument against Nana's statement is that he seems to be against "fake godmen". Does this mean that he is alright with the "real godmen"? If so, what is it that differentiates "fake godmen" from "real godmen"? And how does he know that Asharam Bapu, Anirudhha Bapu and Narendra Maharaj are "fake"? Has he met them ever? That is something that should be thought over.
But, coming back to the case filed against Nana, the "devotee" (one Mr. Ulhas Kulkarni) gives very nice arguments and (as you shall make out by the end of this posting), I fully support these godmen ("fake" or "real"). Mr. Ulhas goes to the extent of criticising Bollywood and how they are not doing any good either by projecting and promoting "prevesity and obscenity". Right on dot, Mr. Ulhas and congratulations for taking a courageous step. It takes guts to fight anyone from Bollywood. These days even script writers of useless soaps and serials are pretending to be great. (These days if you are not connected in any way with Bollywood or her sister "Telewood", then you are an "insignificant person".)
Time and again one has heard of countless arguments against these "godmen". Send these people to me...nirvana guaranteed. These arguments are often referred to as "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) in the Open Source world. For example, private software companies try to create a FUD in the minds of CEOs/CIOs/other vulnerable people regarding how open source software can destroy the industry, etc. But, we will not get into that. The FUD here, is against the godmen. Lets take a look at some of the arguments that one hears:
Let one who has not sinned cast the first stone
Argument over. Go home! Not convinced. Let's try to answer the above points one by one.
Point #1. : What do you mean by "mislead"? Show me one actor, politician, businessman, builder who does not mislead? What about people who show off their status and money to seek sexual favors from women and then dump them? Are they not in the same category?
Point #2: Treating people like god is nothing new. Some people come all the way from Allahabad to Mumbai to see their "gods" (like Amitabh). Pity they don't even have time to visit their local temple. But, who are the gods? And what good have these guys done to merit such status anyway? They have "acted" well in a blockbuster. (Isn't "acting" related to "falsely portraying one's true self"? Isn't it the same as "misleading"?)
Point #3: Ah! the whiff of "blind faith". We'll have dozen people (including the so-called "human rights activists") crawling all over soon. What exactly is "blind faith"? I say if one has reposed complete faith so as not to question his "god", then that is his/her personal judgement. Why do you have to interfere?
In a much broader perspective, so what if the "godmen" do "bad" things? Gosh if they had got it all right and were perfect, they would be right up there, with "God". Surely, they are not worse than the corrupt lot of actors and politicians. Look at their positive side: as long as they preach people to do good things, so be it. And if people go to "bad godmen", then no one has asked them to go there. They are not bound by any bond to be going to that guy. And if they do so, they are doing it because they get some inner peace.
Ah! I know. These actors...they are probably getting jealous. How dare people worship other gods when they are still around? Well, this is the age of competition. So, grow up and fight back (in the same competitive spirit). Not by asking people to beat the devotees and put "chappals" around the godmens' necks. And, not by creating FUD in the people's minds against these.
Oh maybe its because Nana had to face a lot of incovenience because of thousands of devotees gathered for some satsang. Maybe that's why he is so upset. But, wait. Weren't there some real innocent people incovenienced because of Amitabh's stay in the hospital? And what about those useless film shootings that are held on public roads? No one dare say anything against them, then.
Truly this is the age of Kali. Where to even preach good is considered bad. Where heroes now are those who can only "act" well.
Thanks, Mr. Patekar. You have opened our eyes. We still have a lot of work to do.
That's not the first time Nana has gone against "such" people. Neither is it the first time he has got into such trouble. There was the recent case where he had threatened a car driver on the road for driving "rashly". It was alleged that he had even pulled out a revolver (a licensed one). On the other hand, the recent case where another godman Narendra Maharaj was not allowed to take his "holy staff" aboard a plane may have prompted Nana to speak against them again.
Now, the very first point of argument against Nana's statement is that he seems to be against "fake godmen". Does this mean that he is alright with the "real godmen"? If so, what is it that differentiates "fake godmen" from "real godmen"? And how does he know that Asharam Bapu, Anirudhha Bapu and Narendra Maharaj are "fake"? Has he met them ever? That is something that should be thought over.
But, coming back to the case filed against Nana, the "devotee" (one Mr. Ulhas Kulkarni) gives very nice arguments and (as you shall make out by the end of this posting), I fully support these godmen ("fake" or "real"). Mr. Ulhas goes to the extent of criticising Bollywood and how they are not doing any good either by projecting and promoting "prevesity and obscenity". Right on dot, Mr. Ulhas and congratulations for taking a courageous step. It takes guts to fight anyone from Bollywood. These days even script writers of useless soaps and serials are pretending to be great. (These days if you are not connected in any way with Bollywood or her sister "Telewood", then you are an "insignificant person".)
Time and again one has heard of countless arguments against these "godmen". Send these people to me...nirvana guaranteed. These arguments are often referred to as "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) in the Open Source world. For example, private software companies try to create a FUD in the minds of CEOs/CIOs/other vulnerable people regarding how open source software can destroy the industry, etc. But, we will not get into that. The FUD here, is against the godmen. Lets take a look at some of the arguments that one hears:
- These "godmen" mislead people and take favours from them (money, other worldly desires, etc.)
- These "godmen" show people some magic tricks and get people to treat them like god.
- These "godmen" encourage people to have "blind faith" and believe in superstitions.
There are many more, I am sure. But, for every argument raised here, I can assure you that I'll have an equally unanswerable counter-argument. One single point is easy to demolish all this:
Let one who has not sinned cast the first stone
Argument over. Go home! Not convinced. Let's try to answer the above points one by one.
Point #1. : What do you mean by "mislead"? Show me one actor, politician, businessman, builder who does not mislead? What about people who show off their status and money to seek sexual favors from women and then dump them? Are they not in the same category?
Point #2: Treating people like god is nothing new. Some people come all the way from Allahabad to Mumbai to see their "gods" (like Amitabh). Pity they don't even have time to visit their local temple. But, who are the gods? And what good have these guys done to merit such status anyway? They have "acted" well in a blockbuster. (Isn't "acting" related to "falsely portraying one's true self"? Isn't it the same as "misleading"?)
Point #3: Ah! the whiff of "blind faith". We'll have dozen people (including the so-called "human rights activists") crawling all over soon. What exactly is "blind faith"? I say if one has reposed complete faith so as not to question his "god", then that is his/her personal judgement. Why do you have to interfere?
In a much broader perspective, so what if the "godmen" do "bad" things? Gosh if they had got it all right and were perfect, they would be right up there, with "God". Surely, they are not worse than the corrupt lot of actors and politicians. Look at their positive side: as long as they preach people to do good things, so be it. And if people go to "bad godmen", then no one has asked them to go there. They are not bound by any bond to be going to that guy. And if they do so, they are doing it because they get some inner peace.
Ah! I know. These actors...they are probably getting jealous. How dare people worship other gods when they are still around? Well, this is the age of competition. So, grow up and fight back (in the same competitive spirit). Not by asking people to beat the devotees and put "chappals" around the godmens' necks. And, not by creating FUD in the people's minds against these.
Oh maybe its because Nana had to face a lot of incovenience because of thousands of devotees gathered for some satsang. Maybe that's why he is so upset. But, wait. Weren't there some real innocent people incovenienced because of Amitabh's stay in the hospital? And what about those useless film shootings that are held on public roads? No one dare say anything against them, then.
Truly this is the age of Kali. Where to even preach good is considered bad. Where heroes now are those who can only "act" well.
Thanks, Mr. Patekar. You have opened our eyes. We still have a lot of work to do.
Sunday, March 27, 2005
Sri Sri to the rescue again...
At the same convention that Narendra Modi, Gujarat CM was supposed to speak and for which he was denied a US visa, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was also a speaker. He was quizzed about his opinion on Modi and the response is typical saintly.
However, very surprisingly Sri Sri pointed out to the developments in Gujarat, where, as stated in the article he said that many dams have been constructed during his tenure in the government and that the people have enough water.
However, very surprisingly Sri Sri pointed out to the developments in Gujarat, where, as stated in the article he said that many dams have been constructed during his tenure in the government and that the people have enough water.
Thursday, March 24, 2005
Why I love my religion
Some twelve years ago my classmate and co-worker was fond of getting me into a "debate" on religious issues. He was, of course, a very devout follower of another religion and would frequently ask me questions about my own religion. His intention, I thought, was always to "demean" the religion that I followed. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe he wanted to get me engaged in some intellectual and very healthy debate...
The ignorant idiot that I was in these matters, I would hardly be able to defend any questions against my religion. Well, that is now the past. After having studied very superficially (like "scratching the surface"), I think I would, if I get a chance, be able to defend better. In these few years, I have been studying or thinking about various issues, have read a couple of religious books (even those from other religions) and am now proud to be able to understand and follow my own religion better.
Since religious issues have always been the basis of large-scale violence in India in the recent past, I will not reveal my religion explicitly nor will I discuss it here, but most people would be able to guess it.
Again, the aim here is not to "demean" other religions, but then we expect the same in return...:). Like they say, "to each, his own". Do as you wish, nobody trying to force one religion or the other on anybody. But, if there are questions, I now have the answers.
This post was actually prompted by some guys who still made fun of what they could not understand. Maybe some day they actually would (just like me).
The ignorant idiot that I was in these matters, I would hardly be able to defend any questions against my religion. Well, that is now the past. After having studied very superficially (like "scratching the surface"), I think I would, if I get a chance, be able to defend better. In these few years, I have been studying or thinking about various issues, have read a couple of religious books (even those from other religions) and am now proud to be able to understand and follow my own religion better.
Since religious issues have always been the basis of large-scale violence in India in the recent past, I will not reveal my religion explicitly nor will I discuss it here, but most people would be able to guess it.
Again, the aim here is not to "demean" other religions, but then we expect the same in return...:). Like they say, "to each, his own". Do as you wish, nobody trying to force one religion or the other on anybody. But, if there are questions, I now have the answers.
This post was actually prompted by some guys who still made fun of what they could not understand. Maybe some day they actually would (just like me).
Monday, March 14, 2005
Sri Sri's views on "Halo or Hoax" conclave...
Came across this wonderful "response" by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar to a discussion at the "Halo or Hoax" conclave organised by India Today to debate if today's spiritual gurus are hoaxes. In his own trademark "calm and collected" style, he says that "An intelligent man would look into all the avenues before he makes a comment or accusation."
and how some speakers at the conclave branded all present-day spiritual leaders as hoaxes or godmen.
Quite an interesting read and how he finally "chose silence over conflict".
and how some speakers at the conclave branded all present-day spiritual leaders as hoaxes or godmen.
Quite an interesting read and how he finally "chose silence over conflict".
Saturday, March 12, 2005
A revelation...
One of the things that has impressed me the most is the following gem from Swami Chinmayananda's well-compiled proverbs:
Comfort comes as a guest,
Lingers on to become host
And stays forever to enslave us.
Lingers on to become host
And stays forever to enslave us.
Can't believe how true it is, but it is really a classic. Think about it and you will realize that it is a fact that most of us "mere mortals" experience.
Lets take an example:
We have a very hot and humid climate here in Mumbai. Nowadays it is easy for the working class to afford to have air condintioners in their houses. So, many get an air conditioner installed. However, they become so used to it that if it doesn't work (say because there is no electric power), they almost always get agitated and seemingly can't live without it.
An article in a newspaper once stated how during a power outage some residents in Mulund came out of their flats and "slept" in their cars just because their cars had air conditioners.
The "comfort" of the air conditioner soon "enslaved" them.
What do you think?
Lets take an example:
We have a very hot and humid climate here in Mumbai. Nowadays it is easy for the working class to afford to have air condintioners in their houses. So, many get an air conditioner installed. However, they become so used to it that if it doesn't work (say because there is no electric power), they almost always get agitated and seemingly can't live without it.
An article in a newspaper once stated how during a power outage some residents in Mulund came out of their flats and "slept" in their cars just because their cars had air conditioners.
The "comfort" of the air conditioner soon "enslaved" them.
What do you think?
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